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6/11/2010 3:31 PM
Up until the spring of 2009, I'd been flying the T2C 154. For a variety of reasons, I switched to flying the 144. I'm often asked which size I would choose or which size a fellow pilot should choose. Now that I have a couple hundred hours on both models, I feel better equipped to provide more perceived objective information.
My body weight: 175 lbs.
My hook in weight: 225 lbs.
The 154 at the Pre-Worlds
I was surprised when I weighed my fully packed harness a couple of years ago. It's around 50lbs. I've lightened things up a bit, but my flying gear still probably weighs around 40 lbs. I wear two parachutes, fly with all my regular glider bags, and carry nearly 100oz. of water most of the time.
154 I've never thought of the 154 as a BIG glider. It's always felt manageable to direct through the sky. The Pre-Worlds in 2008 was the highest level competition I'd been in on the 154 and I felt I was flying pretty well at the time.
The 154 in Ecuador
I felt during that meet that I had a climb advantage over most. I felt there were only a couple of pilots in the meet who could match the climb performance of the 154 at their wingloading on their chosen wing.
Glide in the Pre-Worlds was more subjective - it always is in XC meets. Glider performance is so close these days, unless there's a distinct advantage, it's difficult to discern in active mid-day air. I didn't feel at a disadvantage on glide.
The 154 in an ozzie magazine.
Canoa, Ecuador is the truest test of glide in my opinion. We're racing at 50mph for 40 miles in uniform coastal air. Tiny differences in performance are easily discerned. It was my first experience there, but objectively Dustin was going better on the 144. He paid attention to his peripheral gear, put fairings on every little component protrusion, and it showed. He was also running with ballast and I was not. Ballast is a whole separate issue which I don't think has any objective data. It's all theory to me.
The 144
144 In the spring of 2009 I switched to the 144. I was encouraged to go to the small glider for a few reasons, but the most compelling was that everyone else on the US team was flying the 144. Pilots similar to my weight like Zippy and Davis were going well on the smaller glider, so I didn't think it would be detrimental.
My first and continuing impression of the 144 is that it's a nimble size and changes heading almost without thinking or perceived input. It feels like a tightly tuned sports car with immediate response.
The 144 ready for photos in Yosemite.
Once again, the World Championships would be the best chance I'd have to compare the 144 to highest caliber of skill and gear all year. From my perception, the 144 allowed me to be on par with the best in climb. I didn't feel like I was outclimbing everyone, and I didn't feel like I was at a disadvantage. The 144 let me climb with anyone I wanted to.
After almost a full season on the 144, I went back to Wills Wing and hooked up with the crew for a couple of test flying sessions. I was able to fly a 154 again after several months with my lighter, recreational harness. I was expecting to find the glider sluggish, but it was not. It was a pleasure to flick about and seemed to be only slightly harder to steer than the 144. The 154 has this amazing stall characteristic that allows you to feather pitch in thermals and milk every last foot out of climb.
The 154 at The Point of the Mountain - Photo by Adam West.
In October 2009, I traveled to Canoa, Ecuador again to put the 144's glide to the test. Again Dustin was racing on a brand new sail cut and everything was nipped and tucked on his glider. Shapiro too had a new sail cut and I was flying a version that was just over 6 months old. This time Wills Wing had competition from Moyes and Kraig Coomber, arguably one of the best ridge racing pilots in the world.
I was ballasting up this time, some days hooking in around 250 lbs. Despite the heavy loading on the smaller glider, I didn't have a disadvantage in sink rate. I was able to hang with the highest before the start. I attribute it to the T2C's stiff airframe.
The 144 during "The Elements Project" filming.
Once again however, I was outmatched in performance by Dustin and Shapiro. From my perspective, the incremental tweaks to the sail cut Steve Pearson had been making over the season had paid off. In addition, new sail materials had been used which perhaps gave an additional advantage.
On the first race day, Dustin was out in front, and Shapiro came walking by me from behind. I thought to myself, "Sh*t, so that's how it's going to be." At Canoa, if you're matched the same, passing is VERY difficult. Shapiro had a distinct advantage despite it being his first time at the race. It was obvious to me the new sail cut was going.
I felt that my sail cut and my 144 was on par with anyone else in the field. Dustin and Shapiro had first and second locked up, and after three days of racing I was able to nip Kraig by a few seconds. I was a believer in the new sail cut and new fabrics Steve had been researching.
Stretching for the spot on the 144 in Big Spring.
Coming into the 2010 season, I was vacillating hard about what size glider to fly. In the end, I chose the 144, with the primary reason that everyone else on the US team is still flying the smaller wing. When you're traveling internationally for competitions, there's a finite amount of spare parts you can bring. With everyone flying the same size glider, we can each bring a smattering of spare parts to share among the group if necessary.
The 2010 Flytec Race and Rally was an eye opener for me. Conditions were exceedingly light throughout the week. There were days we'd be limited to less than 3000ft. for hours and have to hang in zero sink as long as our patience would tolerate. Eduardo Oliveira was on a new 154 and I was impressed at his sink rate. One day in particular we flew together for over an hour in the lightest of lift. He was able to eek out an extra 50ft. here or 100ft. there and it seemed that he had just a bit better of a sink rate. I was envious of the extra ten squares.
If I wasn't concerned about spare parts in foreign lands, or wasn't concerned about having a machine that could keep up with anyone in the world on glide at my wingloading, I'd pick the 154. The 154 climbs a bit better than the 144 and glides within a negligible difference. The 144 is a flick-able ferrari, the 154 is a sizzling BMW M5. Can't go wrong either way.
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Thanks for the write up Jeff! Having flown both (albeit not as much as you have), I agree completely!
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Hi Jeff, finally the long promised article about both T2C sizes! Thanks man! Andre , Portugal
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You got the words just right, my new 144 T2C is a flickable ferrari. Nice write up.
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Another ideal article, thanks, Jeff.
I am planning my T2C purchase (after buying a Covert), down the line a fair bit. But, I think about it quite a bit and this helps me contemplate with more facts and feedback from a pro.
One of the more amazing sights I've seen while flying is you thermalling your 144 in the house thermal at Crestline. Even the best pilot in the club noticed this maneuver: you flew it as slowly as possible, tightly coring the thermal, but you were not banked steeply. I am assuming you were flicking the ferrari as you felt the strongest parts of the thermal.
The image and effect was of a leaf falling up, or an elevator going up to the 7th floor while the rest of us took the winding staircase.
The lesson I took from it was that maneuverability in strong thermals is what I want at our reliable mountain site.
Having seen that, read this, and being a few pounds lighter than you, I am leaning 144, but it's nice to know a luxury sports sedan is the other option.
Great article.
By John Wright on
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I flew my S4 with a same-weight (140lb), similar skills pilot alongside on a new 144, for 2h at Quest this spring. Seemed very similar handling until I noticed like 8 feet of string hanging out for half the climbs! With that much string, and my weight, the LS-S4 is nearly unsteerable in a thermal.
I've ordered a 144, Jeff. THANKS for this great article, and for giving me the sense that I'll not be losing much to sink rate, esp hooking in at 175...
What sail material do you suggest, Jeff, for years of slick, flap-free, performance? And how many hours did your 154 have when you sold it?
It still looked great...
By Steve Bellerby on
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Re: 144 vs LS S4 ...
I flew my S4 with a same-weight (140lb), similar skills pilot alongside on a new 144, for 2h at Quest this spring. Seemed very similar handling until I noticed like 8 feet of string hanging out for half the climbs! With that much string, and my weight, the LS-S4 is nearly unsteerable in a thermal.
I've ordered a 144, Jeff. THANKS for this great article, and for giving me the sense that I'll not be losing much to sink rate, esp hooking in at 175...
What sail material do you suggest, Jeff, for years of slick, flap-free, performance? And how many hours did your 154 have when you sold it?
It still looked great...
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Thanks for the write up. I got the 154. The other day I was coming in for a landing in thermal conditions and got my left wing poped and I dropped the nose. It almost felt that I had bought too big of wing to land in those conditions. I did not bend a down tube but it felt like I had no control over the glider. I had good GS and did not stall the glider. probably just an unpredictable pop right before my flare.
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Thanks for taking the time to put together this long entry. Very informative. I think at 190# it'll be a no brainer for me to take a good look at the 154. Anxious to give it a test drive.
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